Pantrypoints Pantrypoints

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Asker
What is Pantrypoints?
Pantrypoints
It’s a points-based economic system that implements the grain-based valuation proposal of Adam Smith in “The Wealth of Nations”.
Asker
What’s wrong with the current economic system?
Pantrypoints
It’s based on selfishness. This leads to a growing gap between the rich and the poor.
Asker
What’s the problem with inequality? I’m already rich. Why should the poverty of others be my problem?
Pantrypoints

The increase of poor people leads to crime, malnutrition, low-intellect, unemployment, overcrowding in cities where the poor gather to find work, etc. These affect everyone, even the rich.

Poverty increases during economic crises, like the current global inflation.

Barter Credits

Asker
How can Pantrypoints solve poverty, inflation, and economic crises?
Pantrypoints

Pantrypoints deploys a points-based economic system as an “Economy-as-a-Service” (EaaS).

This service facilitates moneyless “barter-credits” as an alternative to money so that you have an option to either buy with money or purchase with points.

Asker
Why would people pay in points? Money already works.
Pantrypoints

Money is expensive. It is a material thing that needs to be printed or stored in vaults, and guarded and carried in your pocket. It loses value because of inflation.

Credit cards are liable to fraud, fees, and interest rates. Cryptocurrencies try to reduce this cost by being totally electronic, but are even more subject to scams and hacking than credit cards. Plus, they add to global warming which leads to more natural disasters.

Money supply is ultimately controlled by banks, not by people. The problem is that banks don’t actually produce anything, as explained by Jeremy Grantham:

Asker
Are points cheaper?
Pantrypoints

Yes, of course. Points are stored online or on paper-cards that cannot be used by third parties. It does not need expensive vaults nor ATMs.

The value of each point is pegged to 1 kilogram of rice which ‘inflates’ far less than money. With Pantrypoints, you can go to a store and purchase things on barter-credit by relying on the trust between you and the seller.

Traction and Users

Asker
How are you sure that barter-credits will work?
Pantrypoints

We have been using the system since 2017 to reduce our money expenses as we establish our startup, and from 2022 as a recording tool for a circular food rescue system that provides compost for urban vegetable gardens. So it already works.

Historically, it was used in a large scale by the Inca Empire, Khmer Empire, Arabia, the Mongols, and most countries before they were colonized by the Europeans who imposed the use of money.

Asker
How many users have you had?
Pantrypoints

We have a limited budget which allows us a cost of $20-100 per server, depending on configuration on Python, Ruby, or Elixir. Moreover, data privacy laws require registration if there are more 1,000 users. So we have a maximum of 1,000 registered users or 300 concurrent users per server.

After it goes over, the server crashes. This means the experiment worked. This happened a lot during the pandemic when a lot of people suddenly went online to look for jobs or to barter.

We then spin up a new server for a new town with new features as a new experiment. At our peak when we were supported by incubators that allowed us to have staff, we had 7 servers.

There is no problem getting users. The problem is the server cost associated with each user. We are mitigating that by going serverless.

Asker
There’s a rice crisis now. Rice prices are shooting up in most countries. Won’t the sudden higher grain prices make the points system suddenly expensive too?
Pantrypoints
The value is based on the common or usual price of grains, not their price during crises. In the 2024 Asian Development Bank Food Security Forum, it was revealed that of all crops, rice has the most stable prices. This proves Adam Smith correct.

Points-Banking and Points-Taxation

Asker
Who administers the points?
Pantrypoints
They are administered by a points-banker. He checks if the points match the real productivity of the people who claim to produce such points.
Banker
I’m a career banker. Does Pantrypoints want to replace money-banking and finance? [This was actually asked by a Vice President of a division of an Australian Bank in 2018]
Pantrypoints
No. The points work side by side with money to circulate value. This is similar to mobile data working side by side with wifi. You can choose between money or points just as you can choose between connecting to the internet by wifi or by mobile data. The points are for people you know. Money is for people you don’t know.
Banker
How will the government earn, if there is no money in Pantrypoints? [This was actually asked by a Vice President of an Vietnamese bank in 2016]
Pantrypoints

The government can earn a points-tax per transaction which can be claimed as the goods and services of the person taxed. In this way, Pantrypoints becomes an employment system as well.

So a potato farmer literaly pays potatoes to the government which it then pays to its employees or uses for welfare services, reducing the use of money for such purposes. The revenue that would have gone to the banker to finance that money then goes to the farmer to incentivize his productivity, increasing the real wealth of nations.

Banker
So you want the whole economy to be dominated by the government?
Pantrypoints
No. In liberal countries, people can deploy their own Pantrypoints EaaS and remit the in-kind taxes themselves to the government. This is the modern version of tax farming in kind.

Pool Clearing

Asker
You said that Pantrypoints is scalable can be used to solve economic crises globally. How can this be done when each Pantrypoints only works for each country, and not all countries?
Pantrypoints
Each country’s Pantrypoints will be connected to others through Pool Clearing.
Asker
What’s Pool Clearing?
Pantrypoints

It’s a world trade system proposed by British economist EF Schumacher wherein the trading countries act as one pool. The members of the pool constantly coordinate with each other to make world trade efficient.

This is very different from the current world trade system established by Bretton Woods wherein the United States has a superior position and the US dollar is the international reserve currency. In Pool Clearing, the price of grains is the common measure.

Asker
How will grains be the alternative to the US dollar as international reserve currency?
Pantrypoints

We are working on a global ledger that has the record of the ratios of grains to each other. For example, the cheapest price of 1 kilo rice in Saigon is 10,000 VND and in Manila is 50 pesos. So 10,000 VND and 50 pesos represents 1 point, and everything is relative to that.

In a cross-border transaction, the points-valuation of the selling country is used. This favors countries with stable grain production, and ties the economic system directly with environmental protection.

Asker
So a points-based system inherently protects the environment?
Pantrypoints

Yes. It is totally different from the current money-and-gold-based economic system which mines for precious metals and crypto at the expense of the environment.

This was used by the Khmer Empire (Cambodia) to grow wealthy through foreign trade until they got greedy and maxed out their rice production by destroying their forests which ironically caused a drought which killed the system.

Grains

Try It

Asker
How do I sign up?
Pantrypoints
You can register in the waitlist , or send us a messsage here , or send us an email at [email protected] or [email protected] .
Asker
What is the current status?
Pantrypoints
Our correct prediction of the 2020 Stagflation means that its underlying science, called Superphysics is correct. So from 2024 we have shifted resources to that, and have transferred Pantrypoints to a coconut cooperative to test using coconut oil instead of grains as the basis of valuation, as well as offline barter-credit cards.
Asker
So that was your version of a non-capitalist exit?
Pantrypoints

Not yet. We exit when that cooperative becomes fully capable to deploy and maintain Pantrypoints.

In an ideal world, 2024 would have been our exit, as Pantrypoints was designed to be the resource provider for Superphysics experiments such as anti-gravity, crystal computers, aether-based disease treatments, etc. But since we had far less support than ideal, most of those experiments are shelved.

However, this lets us focus on the theory so much more and make it as a real alternative not only to Neoclassical Economics, but also to Modern Physics and Western Medicine to push for policies that not only solve economic crises, but also the Cosmology Crisis, health crisis, territorial disputes, etc.

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